Date: 13th April 2017
Interview By: Pete Mutant
OHHMS were back in Glasgow for the first time since 2015 when they graced the 13th Note with their ‘”boyfriends” in Slabdragger. I had the opportunity to sit down with the main core of the band minus vocalist Paul who was rather under the weather with Laryngitis and Guitarist Daniel who was… well, we didn’t know where he was but I was fortunate enough to be sitting with Marc, Max and Chainy who were in good spirits on their long overdue return.
I thought it best to get a wee drinky to hand to help the conversation flow and it certainly didn’t harm the proceedings as the band members, from the lovely land of Canterbury in Kent, came with me to the Solid Rock for some quality beers and some quality convo. With Mastodon blaring in the background, it seemed that the sound system was in our favour.
The band touched upon several subjects from their live performances to working with and around the concepts that make up their albums. They had no qualms about opening up on their experiences with terrorism when in Stockholm where, at the time they were meant to be playing at a music festival, they were in lockdown at the venue as a violent extremist was unleashing twisted dogmatic hell upon the city. A situation that no sane person would want to be involved and all the more unsettling since the recent attack in Manchester.
The interview also shed light on their plans for their next release which already has a fairly well developed concept in the pipeline which means that there is a lot more to come from this fairly young band; a band that has only in essence been in existence as a solid unit for three years. They have achieved a large amount so far and they are certainly not done yet.
You were in Manchester last yesterday at Rebellion, tell me how it went?
Max: It was a good one actually, a good start to the three dayer. Packed out pretty well as well.
Chainy: Marc was late so we were very scared for the first couple of hours. Actually, we were scared that we wouldn’t make it ourselves.
Marc: Traffic is pretty bad there but it was a good show in the end, a good show.
The Fool has been out for over a month now, how well do you think it has been received?
Marc: I think it’s been overwhelmingly positive isn’t it?
Max: Still hard to process really as there has been so much positive feedback for the band which obviously we are so over the moon about.
Marc: The Kerrang thing was pretty mental, like in terms of my 13 year old self was quite excited.
Chainy: He was touching his 13 year old self (laughs).
Had a lot of feedback in the press and the media, so most of it has been mainly positive?
Marc: Well there was one really well written shit review.
Chainy: Yeah actually the best written one was a negative one.
Max: It was really bad yeah.
Chainy: It was written so well i was kind of like that’s alright I don’t mind.
Max: It was definitely like an interesting read.
Chainy: He knew what he was talking about…by saying we were bad (laughs).
Max: Yeah it was stuff that you don’t get in most reviews that we thought yeah thank god someone’s mentioned that.
Marc: A lot of them were the same did you notice that?
Chainy: Yeah they use a lot of the same words.
Marc: Like a phrase from a presspack that they just cut and paste.
Max: It’s like a combination of buzzwords, without slating them obviously.
Chainy: We were wondering about how many of them actually listened to it like before they did it.
Max: Apart from that generally its been good.
Chainy: Everyone on twitter has been very nice.
Excellent guys. Well you toured with Hark last month, did you play much of the new stuff live?
Chainy: I think we only did two songs, maybe one. We had ‘the World’ and possibly ‘the magician’.
Max: Yeah we were playing the anchor quite a lot as well.
Marc: We used our spare guitarist; Dan couldn’t make it.
Max: Yeah we had someone fill in.
Chainy: Well he’s done it once before so that’s why we played older stuff because that’s what he had to learn the last time. But yeah, this is the first tour where we’ve not played ‘The Anchor’ and we are only playing songs from ‘The Fool’.
Max: Just all the new stuff, it’s the first time that we’ve been playing ‘The Hanged Man’ as well.
Chainy: Yeah last night was the first night.
Max: First time we’ve ever played it live.
Chainy: It was really weird trying to move around and you have to remember where all the pedals and stuff are so you have to remain fairly static.
Well your songs aren’t exactly 3 minute radio material.
Max: No they’re quite full on. I think we’ve got used to how long they’ve been. I think that it’s all about endurance and everything like that and see how far you can push for like 20 minutes but yeah, I’d say that we’re pretty used to it.
So do you try to replicate that album sound live or do you see that and the live setting as two separate entities?
Chainy: The best we can but obviously in the studio we’ll add stuff that we can’t do live like ‘The Lovers’ is a song where we don’t know if we can play live and off the last album ‘Dawn Of The Swarm’, we’ve never played that live. There’s too much.
Max: We like focused on it so much in the studio..
Chainy: Couldn’t replicate it.
Max: I think especially like when we play live, it’s very different from our studio sound. The studio sound is very quite stadium, anthemic; quite epic in format and all that but we try to make our live shows as energetic
Marc: More visceral
Max: Yeah more visceral than what you’d expect from just our albums.
Do you see yourselves taking on different personas when on stage?
Max: Definitely Chainy, he turns into a sexy bastard.
Chainy: what do you mean turns into (laughs) I wake up one and go to bed one.
A 24/7 love machine…
Max: Yeah we’re all sort of different in our own little way.
It all just culminates together and creates this authentic live experience?
Chainy: We definitely try to keep it as honest as possible.
Marc: We don’t really overthink the live performance, we just play them and then it ends up just being what it is.
Chainy: It’s as we’ve always done it, in all our bands previous. We’ve always played live that way so we never thought to change it; we were all in like hardcore bands and stuff so.
Hardcore bands? So quite a different style entirely.
Max: Just a lot faster
Chainy: A lot faster and you have to move around as it just seems weird playing fast music and not moving around.
Max: So we just transferred that into slow heavy stuff
Chainy: We ignored the standing still stuff.
So I hope you don’t mind getting a bit deep here but I read that you guys were in Stockholm wuth the failed gig at the time of the reported terrorist incident.
Max: Yeah it was very surreal
Could you describe the atmosphere there at the time? Obviously there’s also the disappointment there (of not playing)?
Chainy: It was weird being there.
Max: Yeah it was such a mixture of emotions.
Marc: It was more confusion because we didn’t know exactly about what was going on and as we still had wifi we were reading the BBC reports and they were differing slightly from what the promoter was telling us. He was being spoken to by the police so he was saying that there was other shootings or there was a shooting.
Chainy: Next door to the venue.
Marc: But it was only reported by the BBC as that shots were fired elsewhere but that was like…it’s as if it were completely normal.
Max: And we were at the venue and one band had sound checked and about 20 of us scattered about and it was a dead sort of silence throughtout the whole venue. It was a bit surreal.
Obviously it would be a very weighty atmosphere, I mean obviously you would fear for yourself?
Chainy: It was really scary. It was like, because we were next door, it was like is this going to spread over to the venue we’re in?
Marc: The guy with the lorry that went into the shop was about 20 minutes away; like 20 minutes walk away but where this shooting had happened, this apparent shooting, was literally around the corner from the shopping centre where we’d been and it turned out to be nothing. But I think when we found out that, well, when we were told about that had happened, that was the first time that I felt a bit worried.
Max: Yeah it sort of struck then.
Chainy: And they were closing the curtains at that point as well.
Marc: People were just walking down the street and just looking as police passed and it was just like, is this how it all ends?
It sounds horrible.
Chainy: Well when I went home, I was really messed up for that next week. I just couldn’t think of anything else. I couldn’t sleep.
You just can’t ever imagine being in that situation yourself do you?
Max: No and that was like the first time that Stockholm had something like that since like the 70s. It’s been like 40 years since anything like that, terrorist related happened.
Marc: It was bizarre as my friend was there on honeymoon. It was like all these people were there that I knew in Stockholm for some reason and this happens. We were like all texting each other making sure that we were all alright. It was just really weird; and he was closer to the actual incident. He got locked up in an office building for like hours before they sorted it all out but, it was just mad.
The closest that I’ve ever been involved, I was in North Dakota at the time of the Glasgow incident when two guys rammed a van into the airport whilst on fire. I was meant to be flying back the next day and I was just watching it on tv and was just like, how am I going to get home?
Chainy: Yeah we had trouble getting home the next day. The airport, there was people walking about with machine guns.
Obviously you were all time-bound as well with tickets, getting home fairs etc.
Max: Yeah, exactly.
Marc: We did get paid before hand.
Chainy: The band after us were going to be getting paid.
Agghh, unfortunate for them.
Chainy: We was in the same hotel and we spoke to them and they were like “yeah we’ve not been paid and we don’t know if we will be paid.
Well I wonder if you have to get sort of terrorist insurance paid these days?
Chainy: Yeah the promoter was just like “I don’t know how we deal with all this. What happens next?”.
There’s not really a script there for bands.
Marc: No not for bands and even the promoter, can you insure against that? Like it’s highly unlikely to happen.
Well I’m sure the rates would be pretty fucking awful as well; wouldn’t they if you include that?
Yeah, so a lot of the lyrical content is very observational from what Paul has said before. Obviously conspiracy theories is covered on the new album.
Chainy: Well just ‘The World’.
Max: ‘The World’ is about how planet Earth is and basically the mindset behind a conspiracy theorist where it gets to a point where like it detaches them from the social construct. You know, dealing with other people who don’t believe in the same thing as they do believe in and it really turns into and it really tears them apart. And the thing is Paul…
Chainy: His mate, or I don’t know, his work mate?
Max: Yeah his work mate. He had to just quit his job just because he was tired of everyone around him thinking differently.
Marc: Did he not get signed off by a psychiatric doctor?
Max: Yeah a psychiatric (doctor).
Marc: Yeah who said ‘”you’ve gone a bit off the rails”.
Max: Yeah purely because he believed that the earth was flat, yeah that was it.
Marc: Yeah he started with flat earth then started to deny the holocaust.
Chainy: Yeah he went on to other stuff.
Yeah that does appear to be the red line. So experiencing that, when normally we view everything through a lens so to speak, actually being in that situation, does that change your perception of the world or does it sort of reaffirm your held beliefs?
Max: I think a lot of it comes from Paul. When we’re talking lyrically it’s a lot of Paul’s ideas about everything. He makes it very political, topical. He gets into things and researches things so every song’s like a message but we don’t see it as being too preachy or anything like that.
Marc: But in an answer to your question, when looking at the conspiracy theorist stuff, it makes you question your own beliefs but then you look at some of the stuff and I don’t know if it’s just social conditioning or you’ve always just known the world, what it is and it’s hard to unsee it. So you know, Paul’s mate who was believing in flat earth and stuff, he might…well I don’t know if he’s right but he could be shouting at us and thinking you’re all idiots and we can’t see it. You can’t put yourself in that mindset because you’re like the world isn’t flat (laughs).
Chainy: After we wrote that song, well after we wrote that song, Paul was we’re going to do it about flat earth so I looked into flat earth and there was a part of me that was like oh. They way that they’re saying this is very believable.
Max: Yeah they have answers to all of your questions.
It’s almost as if they take a scientific approach, or as best a scientific approach that they could make.
Chainy: Look, I don’t believe that the earth is flat but it definitely changed my negative thought.
Should all check out the Joe Rogan Experience.
Chainy: I know, I love the Joe Rogan Experience. I was just telling Marc. That’s the one I was telling you about.
Marc: Yeah you put it to me.
Chainy : I have literally downloaded loads to listen to on tour. And like his mate Eddie Bravo.
Aww it’s just so funny…
Chainy: Yeah he’s proper into flat earth. All conspiracies he’s into. It was annoying as on the last episode he was like “I’ve got something bigger” and they were like “let’s save it for next time” and I was like I need to hear what they’ve got to talk about.
So you have some unfinished business in Stockholm then?
Chainy: Yeah we definitely want to go back. It was weird even though it didn’t really have anything to do with us but there was kind if like this guilt because they paid us all this money to not do what they are paying us to do so it’s kind of like we owe them.
Marc: And was weird because like the picture we took of us on the airplane we were like so excited to be flying to our first gig and then that happens and it’s a bit like an upper then a downer.
Max: Yeah we couldn’t resolve it basically.
Are there any specific venues anywhere in the world that you would love to play?
Chainy: The Cherry Tree in Canterbury. It is the best venue in the world.
Marc: Yeah but we have played there…
Chainy: Yeah but we should play there more.
Max: You won’t be able to fit the PA in the venue with the rest of the band. It’s basically someone’s kitchen. In the heart of Canterbury.
Marc: Well it is a pub, but it is ridiculous.
Chainy: You can fit 80 people into the entire building. It’s split up into two rooms 40 in each room.
Kind of like the 13th note then (where they played last time in Glasgow)?
Max: Oh yeah.
Chainy: It’s kind of like that but if you cut it in half and put in those two rooms.
Marc: I don’t know actually where I’d like to play.
Max: What I would like is for the band, as an opportunity, is to travel to America for a bit. I know Chainey is a big disbeliever of just America in general.
Chainy: Yeah if we do that then Chester can fill in for me (laughs)
Well it certainly is a big place.
Max: Getting there would certainly be a milestone.
Sort of a test as well. You know how they say ‘conquering America’?
Max: Well yeah just going into a different area.
Marc: I don’t know if we want to conquer (laughs).
Well conquer is a bit strong…(laughs)
Chainy: They would beat us.
Yeah they’ve got guns hmmm…the guns versus guitars debate.
Marc: Guns win every time.
What about guitar guns?
Well you’ve achieved a lot in the lat three years. Such a small window of time isn’t it?
Max: Again it’s just not all sunk in. Like, how far the band’s got, I don’t think that we’ve caught up mentally.
Chainy: Yeah like it was very very quick like a few months after you joined the band. It was a few months before we recorded because we was recording when it happened.
Max: Yeah that’s it
Marc: There is a ceiling though isn’t there, that only goes so far? Then we have to put the extra work in and support it with records.
Max: I think, if anything we feel like as musicians we have to keep up with the popularity and it’s sort of like pushing us to push ourselves. Just in technical ability if anything.
Marc: Yeah we got put onto higher positions in bills to what we already thought. We felt that we were imposing and shouldn’t be there.
Max: Yeah there’s been so many gigs where we’ve turned up and we were like, what, we go after these guys? Like these guys are really good.
Yeah they’ve like been playing for 30 years…
Marc: And we’re just a bunch of idiots (laughs)
It has been a pretty meteoric rise, what would you put your success down to? Is it just your technique, your minds?
Max: I think that first of all it is….we all have such different tastes in music. I guess that’s the foundation of what we’ve written but when it comes to gigs and being in the public eye, it’s got a big help from Holy Roar. Just from the getgo. The first album right through.
Chainey: A our management and stuff. I always get confused about who does what.
It’s like a tree with many branches isn’t it?
Max: Yeah exactly. It was just like a snowball effect with more people that had heard about us.
Chainy: and European promotion stuff, I don’t know who does what.
Max: If anything it is like the culture just embraced us and we just became part of it. So you know the culture is already here. You know the scenes going on; the sort of UK music scene that’s going on at the moment and it felt like we just became part if it.
Marc: I think it was the fact that it all came as part of a package. We had the songs, we had like a, maybe not a message but a…
Max: A direction
Marc: A direction yes, and there was art with it as well. That’s why Holy Roar were interested in it in the first place. We literally sent them the art, the record and everything in the background and he was like “yep, that’s it”. They were really happy with it and I think that people like that. They like the aesthetic and the message; probably just as much as they like the music as opposed to just, oh the music. There’s more to it than just that. Without sounding too poncey.
Max: No but it’s like the full package, like it’s a product that is just there straight away.
Cool I was going to ask how the deal with Holy Roar records came about as well.
Marc: Well we had asked a bunch of other labels but they just weren’t interested. We always liked Holy Roar and the bands that they put out although they had leant towards all the hardcore and we didn’t know at the time but Alex at Holy Roar was wanting to get some more sort of progressive/doom kind of bands.
Max: They had Slabdragger and that was about it.
Marc: Yeah they wanted to expand it and we happened to send him this complete package that he liked and I think it was just sort of like a convergence of ideas. It was right place right time.
PM: So it was almost a sort of gamble but an area that he was wanting to go into anyways?
Yeahs all round
So you were talking about the culture that you became a part of now, do you see yourselves as being able to lead that culture one day?
Max: I wouldn’t say leading but providing a different viewpoint in the way that we are sort of on the outskirts of any genre with all different influences. I think that’s how we stood out.
Marc: we got sort of amalgamated with the doom stuff and we’re not. And people say that we’re a doom band but we are not a doom band. There are heavy riffs but…
And long songs (laughs)
Marc: And long songs but it’s a lazy definition. There are doomy aspects I admit but we’re not somebody like Candlemass. That’s doom and we don’t sound like Candlemass at all. Progressive? Yeah I’d say. I’d say Sludge, yeah. I think it’s easy to say that they are part of this kind of clique of bands like Conan and Bossk actually. I can think of more examples.
Marc: Yeah and that kind of like, group.
Max: We’ve been kind of connected with bands on the outskirts of the genres that they’re linked with
Marc: Yes and I don’t think, we fit in a little bit, but at the end of the day there’s more with what we’re doing. I don’t think we want to lead it, I think that we’re just kind of like on the sides.
Chainy: If Paul was here he would say “I feel like the band are stood in a circle, they’ve all got one foot in the middle which is what we’re doing and we’ve all got an extra foot on the outside, fiddling about trying to pull in our own stuff.”
A musical hokey cokey I guess.
Marc: I suppose so.
Chainy: That’s exactly what Paul would say (laughs). He’s said it three times now so I thought I’d bring it up.
Max: Just quote Paul on that one.
Chainey: I don’t know where he is right now. Or Dan. This was meant to be Dan’s interview (laughs)
Max: None of us are Daniel Sargent by the way.
(Laughs all round)
Chainy: Cut that bit out (laughs)
So Paul has talked about his goals being achieved, you guys are going to have a bit more on your plate now, do you have a wider vision?
Max: We’re done
Marc: Yeah we are full
Stick a fork in me and all that…
Marc: Yeah I think we are going to actually just carry on. Just keep doing what we’re doing. We’re already sorting out the next record. Got an idea down for that, a concept. Just powering on doing the same sort of stuff.
Max: Just doing the usual you know.
Marc: It’s not like we are going to just rehash it.
Max: We are just going to use the same formula that we’ve done for the past three records that we’ve released basically. Without sounding too boring.
Chainy: What we did before but a bit better. I think the new album is completely different.
Marc: I think because we are, as you said with Paul’s idea, we have a central idea that makes the Ohhms’ sound; ‘The Cold’ EP and hence ‘The Fool’ are very different. I think that we are just going to carry on doing whatever we want really.
Max: We want to keep it just as natural as possible.
Chainy: You get bored if you just play the same music. It will eventually go out of fashion and you’re going to be like ‘oh I can’t play these songs anymore.’
Marc: It’s half the reason that we stopped playing, not only because we were writing ‘The Fool’ essentially on tour. We just got bored of playing the old songs. Not that we don’t like the songs, but I just got bored of playing them.
Max: We just want to make sure that we are as interested in our music as we want other people to be basically.
Marc: Because if we are interested and into it then we will just feed off that.
Max: We’ve succeeded in our own way you know if we appreciate it in our own way.
Marc: Yeah self-serving but people feed off of that.
Yeah, it resonates really well.
Marc: Yeah they go, these guys are really enjoying what they are doing so I enjoy it.
Yeah, it is a successful framework where you enjoy what you are doing.
Max: Yeah exactly. Keep true to yourself.
So who would you like to take the stage with in the future?
Chainy: I don’t know anyone. All these gigs we play are like completely new bands. Like, I’ve never heard any of them.
Max: Yeah it’s all constantly new experiences.
Chainy: Like even though we are part of the doom scene, I don’t really follow it.
Max: What I would say is that we were very close to playing with Melvins at Temples festival last year, before that all got cancelled. So I’d say for that reason, we’d want to play with Melvins.
Marc: Yeah or that grunge spin off, alternative. I’d like to play with Sleep, purely because I like Sleep and I’d like to play with Melvins. I’d agree with that. And, Sun O))) because…why not.
Max: They are some band.
Chainy: Technically we have.
Marc: Technically yeah, but they’ve gone a way from the…they are more of an art thing now. They play in art venues like where orchestras play and they’ve gone, we’re not a band as such, we are an artistic expression and I think because of that, I like them more.
It’s an interesting niche isn’t it?
Marc: It is yeah, like a performance art in a way. Not necessarily a band as such.
Max: It’s an experience, you go there for the experience. It’s like going into a 4D film isn’t it.
Chainy: A little louder though. More like 5D.
So let’s talk about ‘The Fool’. It took around two years to complete, well 22 months?
Chainy: As soon as we finished ‘Cold’ we were like, okay next thing so like even though it has been long, it was more casual. It was kind of like oh we’re writing songs, this is gonna be album now?
So it was really life absorbing or too arduous?
Chainy: Only as much as usual
Marc: It was expensive. I was feeling like this is a lot of money (laughs)
Max: Well we wrote half the songs whilst we were in the studio as well.
Marc: Yeah ‘The Hanged Man’ was pretty much in the studio wasn’t it?
Max: Yeah we had a lot of studio time when we were recording. I think mainly it’s because we’re good mates with the guy who recorded us. We practiced loads at his as as well.
Chainy: He’s recorded everything we’ve done.
Mates rates as well?
Well, I guess you’ve got to be a professional as well…
Marc: Aw yeah I wouldn’t want to think the we under paid him either.
Chainy: He’s very cheap for what like, it’s a very professional sound and we pay half the price that most people do. There’s a lot of input because there’s a lot of stuff on this album that I personally improvised. Like there’s a few parts that he technically wrote for my own parts. And he’d be the same with Paul, “ah I think we should do this” and does the same with you guys.
Marc: Nope my riffs are perfect.
Max: He’s almost like a 6th member.
Marc: He very much produces it doesn’t he?
Chainy: He’s like our producer
Max: That’s Ian Sadler at Emeline Studios Whitstable.
Chainy: Kent, England….The world.
Marc: Don’t use his microwave though.
Max: Yeah his microwave stinks.
Marc: Yeah it’s disgusting.
Chainy: It’s so dirty he has to buy a new one
Marc: He hasn’t though
Chainy: I heard he did
Marc: Well, I thought he did but that was just a microwave that was in his studio but he didn’t replace it. Basically, one day this soup exploded. This band was in and they zapped the soup in the microwave and it exploded and he (Ian) was like “ugh I’ve got to clean that”. But he never did. Three years down the line.
Doesn’t sound very sanitary does it?
Chainy: Well the rest of the studio is
Max: Just don’t use Ian Sadler’s microwave.
(Laughs all round)
So you were talking about the next step, the next release. Obviously ‘The Fool ‘ is a concept album, are you going to frame it around a concept again?
Chainy: Aww yeah I can imagine that all of our albums will always be concept albums.
Marc: The new album, yes. It’s a concept that we’ve had around for a little while now.
Chainy: This one’s a more religious, religion based kind of concept. It’s kind of Greek, it’s obviously imaginary but it’s more like Greek mythology.
Marc: It’s not Greek but it is a mythical thing.
Chainy: I thought that Paul invented it?
Marc: Yeah Paul’s basically written this mythological story about gods and religion and he’s written it kind of like a Shakespearean poem. Apparently. I think he wrote it in his colouring book (laughs).
Chainy: Don’t give him too much credit.
Marc: And he wants to base the album around it.
Chainy: We’ve done it before in a previous band, the sort of concept. So we are bringing it back. I think that he’s mentioned that he’ll be releasing that for free like as a promotion.
Marc: Whereas our theme for ‘The Fool’ was tarot, and you can buy the tarot cards for it. But I think this will be like a book that has the lyrics.
Max: As a story.
Marc: As a sort of epic poem or saga with a piece of art to go with it. So that’s the bare bones of it.
Chainy: Yeah we’re just spitballing at the moment.
So musically do you find it quite hard to stick to a concept?
Marc: No. I think the concept and the music are very separate.
Max: I think that the concept usually comes from the lyrics. What Paul’s role in the band is to set a theme that defines the music that we come up with. I think the foundations are us meeting up in the practice room, playing through a load of riffs that we think sound good and make sure that they sound like they should be in the same sort of song. And Paul puts lyrics on them and then moulds it into a story. He puts a message on top.
Chainy: Every now and then he might say “oh put a bit of delay on that guitar”
Marc: Or “what’s all that wishy washy stuff?”.
Chainy: We ignore him, but yeah that’s his input musically.
Marc: He has the concept, the lyrics, the theme and the art and then we have the music and sort of mash it all in together.
Chainy: Yeah we’re like the actual musicians and Paul sort of sings and writes lyrics on top.
Max: We’re actually called Paul Waller and the Ohmms (all laugh)
So you’re back in Glasgow, it’s been two years since you last played here with Slabdragger. Are you looking forward to tonight?
Max: Again with the other bands, well since last night, we get on with them really well.
Marc: Yeah they seemed like nice guys.
Chainy: He said I was sexy, and I agreed (laughs)
Is that where you got that from?
Chainy: Well I’ve been doing this for a while so…(all laugh)
Marc: Well they seemed like really chilled, just normal people.
Max: It’s the same with Slabdragger when we played at the 13th Note you know.
Chainy: Well that was a bit more special you know Slabdragger are like our boyfriends.
Marc: But I think it’s like we were together in the same van you know. We travelled and slept in the same place and you get that camaraderie as, well no offence to Bossk but we are travelling separately doing our own thing.
Max: I think the one thing that I’d like to do different would be to travel with the bands that we’re touring with. Just to bond with them a little bit more, you know, get to know them a bit more.
Chainy: It’s like when we’re playing a gig with Slabdragger, it’s like hanging about with mates you know like back stage or out the front or something. With the other bands it’s more like being friendly, like we don’t know each other.
I guess you don’t get much time to get to know each other?
Max: Yeah you’re only there for like five hours for the whole night then you have to jet off anyways so it’s sort of hard to mingle when we just like turn up.
Well being on the road is an experience at least.
Max: Yeah definitely. Especially when you don’t have any windows. When you’re in the back of a van, when you have no windows..
Chainy: You learn to accept yourself.
Max: I’ve been reading 1984 for about a year and I’ve got about a third of the way through because I only read it in the back of the van.
Marc: Is that it on tour or is that just a statement? (Laughs)
Chainy: I could have done it in a week but it’s been a year (laughs )
PM: Well there’s a personal goal…
Max: Yeah if I can finish that I’ll be happy.